[Music] [Music] I'm Charlotte McLoud with investing.com and here today with me is Lynette Zang founder and CEO of sang Enterprises thank you so much for being here great to have you I'm very glad to be here Charlotte I'd love you if it's like it's an old friend coming home yes it's always good to see you in person I love our chats online but really good to have you here in person I think it's the first time since last year and again we're catching up at VC right here in
Vancouver so we made it to day two and I know you were up on stage around the show floor yesterday so I wanted to ask why getting your your takeaways from the first dat how is the mood feeling here I know you're having conversations with with your followers all the time so how's it feeling well it feels very upbeat actually and a lot of new people coming in I've met a number of brand new people to Gold whether it's mining or the physical so that is always a really good thing to see that people are
starting to pay attention yeah I think I think it's a good atmosphere it feels busier than last year I I have a hard time gauging these things but that's how it feels so and I noticed at at V this year Jay has really put a strong focus on geopolitics in the agenda and in the talks that he's arranging which makes total sense right so I thought thought to bring that into this conversation as well and ask you what what key geopolitical themes you're watching of course there are so many well you know
we're in the US we um inaugurating a new president as we speak right as we speak and so that is I think we're going to have an extraordinarily interesting four years I'll say that yeah I think that's fair I think everybody is kind of like wow it's going to be uncertain it's going to be extraordinary as you said so we'll see how that goes and yeah that is a big development since our last conversation is we have Donald Trump coming in for his second term and as we said inauguration day is is right now so
we'll have to wait and see how that plays out but he's made a lot of promises and one of the big ones that I've been hearing a lot about is the Department of government efficiency so I thought to ask you about that how that could play out because a lot of people here are you know they they like the idea of that it's just a question of how does that actually play out well I think we're all going to find out how that plays out but um and I think it'll you know I I think everybody is for a
smaller government I'm not quite sure that they can do it without massive disruption and that's really what I expect to see and that disruption should cause an awful lot of volatility in the markets so which is great for Traders that's what they like is that volatility um but I that's what I expect to see a lot more inflation but a lot of volatility as this whole piece transitions because it's there's so many unknowns you know and and as you said he's made a lot of promises well it's not just up to him so
we'll see what happens we will see yeah and we'll have to have you back maybe in a few months just to to give him some time to see what happens I'm having a lot of of that kind of conversation today as we'll check back in later but I will say that um what I thought was quite helpful was what happened between Israel and Hamas and how the outgoing President Biden's Emissary and president Trump's Emissary really work together to help make that peace and that ceasefire happens so that made me feel quite good
yeah yeah that is a great point and and something that we can talk about that's really happening now so you mentioned you mentioned inflation right and one thing that we're hearing a lot about with Trump is these tariffs right and even this morning there's there's no there's news on that I know we're waiting in Canada in particular to see how that plays and I've I've heard I read one headline this morning saying oh maybe that gets pushed down the road but yeah I I thought to get your thoughts on
on tariffs and inflation in 2025 what we can know at this point well I don't think that they are mutually exclusive so whether or not he in searched the tariffs at this point anybody that was coming in had a big spending agenda and that means a whole lot more debt and when you're looking at the challenge that c Central Bank is having with interest rates right and having to keep them higher for longer and the government needing to issue a ton of more debt plus all the corporate debt that is rolling over or needs to
roll over because they can't pay it off in this higher interest rate environment you know I don't think it's just tariffs that are going to create more inflation and I think this inflation has proved a whole lot stickier because of all the money that they printed right I mean that money is still sloshing around in the system and I think interestingly enough at the same time that there's all of this money that they printed really since 2008 and then 2020 sloshing around in the system there
still seems to be a lack of liquidity so the ability to buy and sell something without ma majorly moving the prices so we live in we could not be living in more interesting times we just couldn't yeah yeah and I think that's an important distinction is okay we've got the tariffs and we've got inflation this is happening separately on its own with or without the other thing I wanted to bring up and I you kind of started I think to to allude to the debt right so we've had these debt sealing
conversations pop right back up and I I kind of I think I know what you're going to say but you know this happens every so often we have all this this to do about it will this time be any different when we're we're seeing this right now I it can't be you know that's like you going out and spending and putting all of this debt on your credit cards and then going n I'm not going to pay it right so it cannot be different this time and I'm never really worried about whether or not the US can pay its debts
because they could just create more debt to pay the old debt the problem is when we're going back to geopolitics that debt on a global basis is starting to matter more yeah okay and I also want to bring up um the FED in 2025 so this is another another place where it's hard to know what's happening and again we have Trump because possibly we're going to have this clash between Trump and pal but how do you think the FED reacts to these these circumstances that we see coming you know what I see is a battle
royale and not just between Trump and Powell but the markets and and the FED right because the FED wants to to really globally too the central banks want to lower interest rates because they want to inspire more inflation right because we've got this massive wall of debt whether it's government or corporate or even individual debt and we're seeing you know the defaults rise pretty significantly so um this is a very dangerous time I mean it's extremely dangerous whether you're in the market
or you're wondering what to do and and I'm going to tell you you got to get to safety and safety is sound money physical silver physical gold and they have different functions but um for me this is a battle royale I'm going to the sidelines I've got my safety net and and that's also Food Water Energy security barter ability wealth preservation community and shelter and since the last time we spoke I had just started on my community Journey with you right and we talked about what happened in Australia
where I just threw the materials out and started talking about community and um since then I've really worked hard I've traveled quite a bit to develop that Global community and a sound money movement because we've got a new currency that's coming in and if they have their DRS it will be a surveillance currency so we need to come together on a global basis and position take that out of the crappy debt-based fat money that they're inflating away and put it into sell money that is above all
governments and above all central banks because it is used both of these are used in every single sector of the global economy and while I always spoke about that to be truthful with you there's 8.4 billion people on this planet and so people sit there and say well what can I do I'm just one person and that's true and I can easily say that too I'm just one person what can I do and that's true but coming together there's so much more of us than there are of the governments we need to take
our power back and we need to have a say in the new currency this is our opportunity really it it it's critical this is the opportunity yeah I think that's that's such an important message and and we'll talk a little bit more about that but I also want to go a little bit further down the path of currencies because I know you're you've done so much research on this very knowledgeable 1987 I've been studying currency life cycles so yeah yeah yeah so we should we should
ask about what's going to happen to the US dollar moving forward and then so we've got new currency coming and maybe we talk about that for people who aren't familiar okay well you know with the with the US dollar and actually it's not just the US dollar it is this is true on a global basis what's good about the US dollar is that the Federal Reserve on the Fred fed which is the Federal Reserve education department they post the purchasing power of the US dollar because it is still technically the
world Reserve currency but I see something that is happening uh today and actually it started in 2008 but uh if I look on the graph in 2012 uh we saw a run on the dollar begin and I say that because both Japan and China Key buyers of our debt have been selling the debt and not buying more and that is very similar to the run that we had on the dollar back in the 60s when foreign governments were sending in their dollars and pulling the gold out of our system so when you have a run on a on a currency and this happens to be the
world Reserve currency that's not really true anymore and it hasn't been for a while but that is a huge shift and what it tells us is that in the US while globally everybody's going to go I'm sorry into a hyperinflationary depression the us is going to feel that the most because there's just no buyers and all of this debt that needs to be issued to fund what we've already spent let alone what they're wanting to spend and the shift that's coming in I'm glad I have gold and silver yeah yeah and of
course this has major implications I think for for gold and silver prices although if you look at it the other way you know your it's your currency that's being devalued but I have to ask you you know gold and silver prices in in 2025 what does all this mean well you know for silver what I'm seeing is the coming to conclusion on that cup formation now you have to understand that when when I'm saying that I'm really talking about the spot silver and the spot gold market this is how they've trained us though
because who refers to that as spot gold or spot silver they refer to it as gold and silver but that reflects a trading market so inside of that I think that this year we'll I can't guarantee it but I think we'll come to conclusion on that top so somewhere in the vicinity of 50 bucks when it breaks above that then it's anybody's guess as to where the markets will go it's still way below its true value and for spot gold I could see it easily 3500 maybe even 4,000 because the
unknown into a new presidential term with a pretty aggressive President right and lots of changes and and all of the corporations that are coming in well I'd say the the big corporations like Elon Musk he's got a bunch right and meta and things like that um that's going to have a huge influence with deregulation which we're already at leverage levels higher than we were in 2008 but let's add some more more debt and more leverage on that and what's happening with the well you know the
stress tests that were created after 2008 that was really more about making the public feel like the banks were safe and sound not really a reality to whether or not the B banks are safe and sound and so they're basically the central banks the Federal Reserve is handing over all of the keys to the kingdom to the banks right now in an environment where the expectation is a whole lot less regulation you want to talk about a casino yeah yeah yeah and so we've talked before about you know your
preferred ways of getting exposure to physical gold and silver one question that was occurring to me right now when we're talking about you know the banks how how should people think about storing this metal not in the banks exactly not in the banks but there are like for me personally there are a couple of private vaults in Phoenix which is where I live and I'm in dead Central Phoenix I could physically walk to either one of those vaults so you need to be Diversified for those that are not as visible as I am you know
again it's it's the strategy that we execute at Zang Enterprises is built in layers so there are some of those labor layers like like the barable piece and both of these are barable they're just Raw Metals um should be held as close to you as possible as well as your cash so there are places where you can hide them in your home like that 2in kick plate underneath your kitchen cabinets and you have put in a false floor and yes you have to move your pots and pans when you want to access your gold or silver but
people don't hold gold and silver in their homes anymore so who's going to eat even think about that right so you have to get a little creative but we have a whole list of ideas on where you can store your Metals so but you know private vaults and then some hidey holes in your home makes a whole lot of sense to me yeah well and moving your pots and pans that's a small price to pay I think for having a good place to put your gold and silver okay so I want to talk a little bit more about being prepared for these
circumstances that are ahead and when I was getting ready for this conversation I was thinking also about these fires in California that we're seeing and I wanted to get your opinion on that because that just adds a whole other element to being prepared well I can tell you that when I was in my condo and therefore keeping it at my house you can get fireproof safes right but gold is also indestructible so in any form gold and silver are monetary at their base but but you're right it does put another
perspective on there that you have to think about so there are fireproof boxes there are number there there are um I had some people some clients that kept their gold uh actually buried in the ground but inside of like a PVC pipe that was completely sailed off so they didn't have to worry about water they didn't have to worry about fires right and they you know if you're living on a far like a number of my clients were had large pieces of property and heavy equipment so they'd put a huge Boulder
on top of where they had their gold and silver and only they could move it with a big you know heavy equipment but that's going to survive a lot of things and and we've seen that we've seen that in you know 1933 people thought oh their gold isn't worth anything right but remember that can uh this somebody bought this property and something looked a little funny over by a tree and they went in and they started digging and they found this whole can of gold coins all different sizes which this was maybe
about five seven years ago uh at that time the current market on those coins especially since they were pre-33 was somewhere north of 10 million right be a lot more now but that's how they maintain their wealth over time that's what gold does do and so does silver okay very very fasinating lots of creative ways as you said to go about this so yeah and I'm going all along with your your tenants right I was also thinking about housing so of course everybody needs somewhere to live but I
think it's it's really tough right now and I think about this because we're in Vancouver to to make the decision to my home so is how how do you look at that I look at it two ways right number one if it's for speculation it's severely overvalued and that will come down what you need to do is make sure that you own gold to hold your purchasing power so that you have something to work with on the other side of it but to your point everybody's got to have a roof over their head and it isn't just housing to
buy a house it's also rents that are going up at an insane level right so part of the strategy is the ability to repay pay that debt with dollars that have no value or fiat currency that has no value which is exactly the same strategy that the Government utilizes it's always repaying the debt with dollars that have less and less and less value right so based upon your mortgage you want to fixed rate mortgage right and I know in parts of the world you can't like in the US you can get a
30-year fixed rate mortgage you can't always do that in different parts of the world but if you get a fixed rate mortgage there is a calculation that we can use to determine well how much gold do I need to pay off that mortgage because we know what the true fundamental value is it's you can't count on Wall Street to do that but the central banks will do that to get confidence back when they do those overnight revaluations right so let's just make life easy and say okay right now it might take 10 ounces of gold to
pay off that mortgage well by the time that happens it might take a quarter of an ounce to pay off that mortgage so you've got to have a place to make your last stand and as long as you can qualify which is a big problem for a lot of people right but as long as you have the ability to take out a mortgage you buy enough gold so that you can always but boom pay that mortgage off just like that right now historically 25 ounces of gold buys an entire city block buildings and all and that's why I say like in in Venezuela I
think it went up overnight 300% when they did that overnight revaluation then you just sell the amount of gold you need you pay off that morgage boom you're done yeah yeah yeah I think that makes a lot of sense and and on the note of fixed rate versus variable rate I know here I know people who those variable rates were hurting in the past several years so it makes total sense all right I think we've covered we've covered quite a lot of ground always really good to get your thoughts
I I would put it over to you before we wrap up any any final thoughts you would share especially on the note of community because I know that's really important to you it's very important the local community because and we're seeing this around the world the single biggest issue for most people as we go through these transitions is food right and you can't live without food and you can't live without water but Community you know I've been working and and I mean do I look like a farmer but I've been
working on the building an urban farm since 2008 we don't have that luxury of time so my Mantra you need to have Security in food water energy security itself barter ability wealth preservation and that community peace and shelter because we need to come together and bring whatever gifts or talents that we have you know and a good place to to start could be at a c community garden or even your local farmers market where you can meet the people that create the food and and create a relationship go there volunteer
give them there's always work to do on a farm um create that relationship but do it with a group of people so in my bugout location on our list if we need to all leave we've got doctors we've got plumbers we've got Farmers electricians teachers right so you bring all of those skills and talents together and then you can survive but on a global basis since what the governments want to do and the central Bankers want to do is install a full surveillance currency and that way you lose all
choices we've got to have a say we've got to and so that's why I've been traveling around the world so much and have work trips planned for this year and we've got to create that Global community and a global Revolution peaceful just by converting your government inflation currency into sell money and if enough of us can do that enough of us do that we have a shot at having a say in the new monetary system and if I'm at that table then what I want is not just what they tell me is backed by gold but
it must be convertible into the gold we have to have the ability to hold those that are in power we have to have the ability to hold their toes to the fire so that's what I'm fighting for okay well we'll end it on that note I always love talking to you because you make it sound so doable and and something that we can accom ACC so we can and and I know that you know it's funny Charlotte because I used to think I grew up thinking that I was supposed to do something that had a positive uh
influence on a lot of people and it's true I do but what I've come to understand as I've been learning more and more about Community is coming together we're all rowing in the same direction that I'm getting chills that that energy that we can bring to it is doable it is doable let's do it yeah very powerful message thank you so much for coming on to talk once again and thank you also for for talking about the Trump situation when we're in such a time of flux so we'll hope to have you
back soon when things are well maybe they won't be more certain but there has more information yeah we'll have more information anyway so thank you so much um once again I'm Charlotte McLoud with investing news.com and this is Lynette say with say Enterprises thank you for watching if you like video make sure you hit the like button and subscribe to our Channel we'd also love to hear your thoughts so leave us a comment [Music] below e
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